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Jun 24, 2005, 05:38 PM // 17:38

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once-per-mission use items. with things like all skills become available, full energy, cure all conditions, cure all hex's that type of thing.

Yay implement potions to ruin the game. I'll say no thank you to that.

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To some people, if they can't farm anymore or can't buy a victory in PvP, then they blame it on the game's content.

When were we able to buy a victory in PvP ?

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first and foremost they have to make money and keep the product flowing they have to be able to pay the bills so all of the rest can EVEN happen

Accounting is not public relations

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second they have to work on the "next chapter"

Why work on the second chapter when they have all this stuff to fix first ?

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Third they have to make sure that all the current server and streaming infrastructure is running and having NO problems

Server maintenance is not public relations

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Fourth they have to monitor any and all complaints that come directly to them including ALL the research needed to get to a solution

Customer support isn't public relations

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Fifth they have to create and implement any of the "upgrades" the have finished, then get them out to the end users

That part is what we're bitching about.

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Finally in their "spare" time they cruise the MANY forums trying to keep up with the "community" and their desires for changes, tweaks and fixes to issues in the game in order to then go back and repeat #5.

Agreed, perhaps some devs cruise the forums but really there's one person who's partially dedicated to this and it's none other than your personal hero Gail Gray. No offense but her carebearism for PvE has tainted PvP since all those 11 page discussions on how to fix PvP have taken all this time to be heard. Why has it taken so much time to acknowledge this problem ? When I saw the dev team in tombs, I felt uncomfortable but obliged to whine to them in local chat about the grind. I know they play on personal time but it feels like the only way to be heard to the people who can do something. You're right maybe the devs don't have time to browse the forums but they should get someone to do it since the gamers are your revenue. Displease them and they'll simply go to another game.

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So just because some of YOU have the free time to spend 40 hours a week tearing through the game to find its weaknesses and then expect quick fixes don't get all huffy with ANet, they have alot on the plate. Really, has any game come out and no issues in the first THREE months of release. Give it time, it'll come around and if it doesn't for you then maybe ANet isn't the problem...

Again you don't understand that all these problems we're whining and bitching about were adressed a LONG time ago. Personnally I don't mind whether they come now or a little later. Give me a heads up so I don't have to grind like a drone is all I'm saying. However, fanboys who say this whole shebang is about Anet caring for us is just a load of... well you know.

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Jun 24, 2005, 06:54 PM // 18:54

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not public relations

not public relations

isn't public relations

Again you don't understand that all these problems we're whining and bitching about were adressed a LONG time ago. Personnally I don't mind whether they come now or a little later. Give me a heads up so I don't have to grind like a drone is all I'm saying.

C'mon Sock you tell me some more of WHAT I don't know about, oh wait you just want me to again buy into the fact that in your world YOUR opinion is the only one that counts, my bad.

In the first sentance of your last paragraph you say the issues you bitch about have been addressed a long time ago, if thats true then why are you STILL bitching?

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However, fanboys who say this whole shebang is about Anet caring for us is just a load of... well you know.

Again your argument is centered around what you wanted to HEAR coming from my statements NOT what they say. I did NOT say that the whole "shebang" is about ANet caring for us, I did say that ANet HAS listened and HAS addressed some of the issues.

See, I happen to understand and have some of the same feelings about "grind" as you, weezer blue and others but I also understand that those are extreme points and are polars to the ones made by certain RP or PvE types. I think ANet sees this as well and are shooting for the middle, the middle wher both sides can live together through compromises.

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Jun 24, 2005, 07:33 PM // 19:33	#43
Loviatar Underworld Spelunker Join Date: Feb 2005	[QUOTE=Odd Sock] Again you don't understand that all these problems we're whining and bitching about were adressed a LONG time ago. QUOTE] since the game was released less than 2 months ago and the UAS/R/I/U ranting didnt start instantly the most the ultra hard core could have been complaining is 7 weeks. in that time they have made elites (one of the biggest rants) so easy to get that there still are complaints skill points are easier to get and will be further adjusted if needed they are now getting ready to make the items available in pvp just as you wanted more in future updates are you that impatient that you cant give them time to make changes and test them without going GIMMIE IT NOW?

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Ian Ascalonian Squire Join Date: Jun 2005	I just noticed some contradiction that arose here. Some people are demanding gold sinks. At the same time, they are complaining about the grind that they will have to endure to use the gold sinks. I don't understand their logic.

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Jun 24, 2005, 10:08 PM // 22:08

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I just noticed some contradiction that arose here.

Some people are demanding gold sinks. At the same time, they are complaining about the grind that they will have to endure to use the gold sinks. I don't understand their logic.

Well, the backbone of most roleplaying games is being driven around by a carrot on a stick with EXP and loot. In this case, people are arguing for shorter sticks and more carrots.

I guess it's foolish to get caught up in artificial rewards/replay value after years of roleplaying games, to the point that it's in a lot of people's blood. (Admittedly, I'm guilty of such)

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Jun 25, 2005, 12:04 AM // 00:04

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Straight from Gaile Gray's mouth...
One of my personal favorite suggestions is that we provide more options for pets, such as items you can buy them or even the ability to change their color. Another suggestion is "town clothes," so that when you head into Ascalon City or Lion's Arch you can shake off the dust of combat and don something that is decidedly not armor-like.

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alongside armour you could also sell 'non-battle' clothes that you could dress your character up in. It seems lots of people have fun playing 'virtual Barbie' with their characters and making them look cool around town. So, why not have a wide range of clothes available that look good but have no practical function? These would all be customised to a character (so couldn't be sold on) and could only be bought from NPCs.

- http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...5&postcount=43

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